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Vintage Conn Trumpet

Serial Number 201353 - 1923

Not for sale

Serial Number is 201353
I can't find any model name/number.
Silver plate w/ gold wash bell
Silver plate worn at touch points
No (?) dents
All the slides slide okay...none are stuck.
Valves work pretty well...I'm no judge. One guy looking for an alto sax for his son played it briefly and said he thought it played well.
Special tuning slide with a rotary valve that lets you change the horn's key on the fly? If nothing else, it is cool that the case is custom-made to hold it.

The Inside Diameter of the 2nd valve slide is 0.438" which evidently makes this Conn Trumpet a Model 22B, a very popular model in the day. This is considered a small bore.
The small bore is in contrast to the Model 26B which has a bore of .458" and the 28B which is 0.485".
[Tip o' the hat to Paul Ayick.]

IF the above is true, this Conn Loyalist webpage leads me to believe it is a New York Symphony "Early Model". Though it is no way as pretty as this example with elaborate engraving and gold-plate.

I still don't know anything about the extra tuning slide with the valve.

Okay, this is what I have been told:
The trumpet you have is a multi key instrument- it is meant to be playable in C, Bb, and A.
When the extra loop is in the tubing it'll be tunable to A.
Probably Bb in the other position and probably, but not certainly, C with the plain slide.
Normally there are extra slides to accommodate the extra tubing length for A/ Bb though the existing ones may just have a lot of pull designed in.
If you pull the third or first slides there is usually a marking on the slide itself for the appropriate key.

I didn't see any marking on the slides.
Now...it just remains for me to try it out and see if I can verify some of this..but I believe it will turn out correct.
Thanks.

July 2012 - A correspondent writes:
"I just saw your Conn trumpet page. That is definitely a 22B. I have one just like it only a bit earlier 200177.
All that stuff about being able to play it in C is incorrect. You can switch from Bb to A with the tuning slide with the rotor.
They have been gaining interest in the past few years although prices are not really climbing.
...The 2nd valve slide is prone to damage, and Conn changed it to an angled arrangement about 1924."

A Tip O' the Hat to C.T.
What he says is in variance with what my first informant said.

More...C.T. also provided a copy of the advertisement at the end of the photo group below.
he went on to say:
"the tuning slides on the old Conns were long enough that you could play the horn in A by pulling the tuning slide way and, and the other slides out a reasonable amount. Almost all horns at that time had those long tuning slides to do that. I just recently played a gig with an A stock arrangement, pulled the slides on my Martin Indiana, and everything was fine. (I'm not much of a reader and transposition at sight is definitely out-of-the-question).
I don't think the 22B always came with the rotor; I think you could order with or without... But the ad I attached may imply it did come with the rotor.
The one I bought recently didn't have it, or a case."

Vintage Conn Trumpet


 

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